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Follow-Up Commentary on Training Behavior Analysts
Richard W. Malott

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In Response to Baer (1992)


In Defense of the Status Quo?
Baer essentially supports the status quo. He argues, “If very many of the students whom we intend to train as researchers behave immediately after graduation as practitioners, then apparently we are training very many practitioners, whatever topography we may claim for that training” (p. 89). That reminds me of what physicians in Montevideo tell me about the practice of medicine there: The medical school trains more MDs than there are desirable positions to fill. Therefore, many MDs become taxi drivers. Does Baer’s logic suggest the more appropriate name for the overly productive medical school should be the Uruguay National Medical School and Taxi Driver Institute? That trained researchers become practitioners does not mean that they were trained to become practitioners. They became practitioners in spite of their training.

However, if the status quo were Don Baer, I would certainly join its defense. I know of no one who matches his rate of graduating high-quality researchers. In his case, I consider the effective practitioner/administrators he graduates as an added benefit, not as a justification for others adopting his practices.

Inculcating Proresearcher, Antipractitioner Values
Baer is right; I do not have much formal data. And he may not often tell his students they should become researchers. And he may be among the rare professors who do not find it especially reinforcing to clone themselves. Or he may define the clone more generally than most – perhaps successful clones are alumni who are properly data based in whatever endeavor they take on. But, despite what we professors say, we do train our graduate students in environments in which so much emphasis is placed on research that the winning professors are defined as those with the most or best publications and the losers, including those who do not get tenure, are those with the fewest or worst publications. It is hard to imagine our graduate students successfully modeling their professors without acquiring those values to some extent. In other words, I take it as unexceptional that I heard a Kansas alumnus complain that the developmental disabilities center where he worked as a practitioner/administrator did not support research.

Students and Teacher: Conflicting Interest?
Baer believes that “Training programs are not nearly as effective in altering student behavior as students are in taking from what they want” (p. 90). He almost seems to offer this as defense for teaching whatever that professor finds reinforcing or expedient to teach. What the professor tries to teach does not matter because hidden within the professor’s course will be ample training for the student to do whatever the student ends up doing. Furthermore, the cunning and resourceful student will be able to extract that useful training from the mass of irrelevancies the course contains. Does this seem optimistic?

In Defense of Pseudoscience?
Baer seems to suggest that a quiet increase in the frequency of worthless correlation studies is evidence that many people know research training is irrelevant for practitioners, so they do easy pseudoscience dissertations. Why not do worthwhile behavioral systems analysis and interventions of the sort students need practice doing for their later careers? Of course such work might not help the advisors get tenure, a serious concern I do not demean.

I did not hope my recommendations would be “revolutionary” within any “communities of verbal behavior about graduate training” (p. 91). But I did hope my recommendation for a functional, job-based, goal-driven curriculum would be discriminated from a recommendation for more useless “Functionally . . . commonplace” (p. 91) pseudoscientific research.

Can We Reliably Train Strategies?
I do not argue against the value of training our students to tell if something is “true or false” (p. 91). And I do not argue with Baer’s observation that this “does not happen in many research-training programs” (p. 91). Also, I do not argue with Baer suggestion that “if we understand a lot about the conditions under which we will say that something is true or false, we will reliably invent the necessary technique whenever we need it, if we do not already know it.” (p. 91). But one of the most outstanding researchers in behavior analysis lamented that many students from his graduate course in truth and falsehood showed no evidence of ever having read Johnston and Pennypacker or Sidman at dissertation time. Perhaps he failed to teach “the logic of experimental control” (p. 91). However, my 25 years experience in teaching graduate student has been that is it is depressingly hard for students to acquire general abstract strategies they can transfer across disparate problems. I have not quit; I still try. But my experience and the training literature suggest that the more specific and concrete the training, the more likely it will alter the student’s repertoire in usable ways. Along the same lines, I see little evidence that most scholars, including behavior analysts, are much better judges of truth and falsity outside their own specialty areas than are taxi drivers, especially if the scholars have a vested interest.

Can We Justify the Status Quo?
Baer seems to suggest that no matter who we train and mo matter what the market needs, everything will adjust appropriately. That seems a Panglossian justification for the status quo. Also, the absence of experimental data does not seem to be an adequate justification for our current expensive, restrictive status quo.

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